The Word Café Podcast with Amax

S4 Ep. 232 Legacy Beyond Material Wealth: What We Really Leave Behind

Amachree Isoboye Afanyaa Season 4 Episode 232

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What legacy will you leave behind when you're gone? The question haunts us all in quiet moments, but we typically frame it in terms of material possessions—property, money, heirlooms. Today's exploration upends that notion completely, inviting us to consider that the most profound inheritance may not be tangible at all.

Drawing from powerful scriptural foundations in Genesis, Psalms, and Proverbs, we uncover how biblical figures like Abraham, Jacob, Joseph, and Daniel weren't primarily beneficiaries of material inheritance. Rather, they received something far more enduring—a spiritual legacy, a blessing, a covenant relationship with God that transformed not just their lives but generations that followed. "A righteous man leaves an inheritance to his children's children," Proverbs tells us, but what is that inheritance exactly?

The answer comes through a remarkable historical comparison between Jonathan Edwards and Max Jukes—contemporaries born in the early 1700s who left dramatically different imprints on the world. Edwards, the renowned theologian whose descendants included 100+ lawyers, multiple senators, governors, college presidents, and even a U.S. Vice President, versus Jukes, whose family line produced hundreds of premature deaths, imprisoned individuals, and societal burdens costing millions. Their contrasting legacies offer a profound lesson: "Your biology cannot stand your spirituality." The spiritual DNA we pass down often proves more influential than genetic inheritance.

This truth challenges us all. What are we preparing to leave behind? A force of blessing that empowers generations, or patterns that perpetuate struggle? As the poem concludes: "Legacy is not left behind, it's passed on voice to mind. Choose your seed, choose your soil, choose your sun. The story is told when life is done." Subscribe and join our conversation about building inheritances that truly matter—the kind that transform lives for generations to come.

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yadi, yadi, ya hi. Yeah, sometimes we get a little bit, uh, playful, uh, what's the word now? Not childish, now childlike. How are you? Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, good everything.

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Wherever you are this very moment listening or seeing me, yep, welcome to the Word Cafe podcast. There's a part of this Word Cafe podcast the way I say it that the other day was like, okay, some of you don't forget it, it is the Word Cafe Podcast with Amax. I know some of you have forgotten that a little bit. That is the main, but in any case, welcome. How are you? How are you doing? Yes, I will always ask that question because it is not just for the fun, it is because we care in this space, majorly, majorly. That's why we're here, because of you, uh-huh well, why? I mean? I'm reaching you from the federal capital territory as Nigeria, abuja.

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It's been really hot, very hot. I think it was yesterday or so. We checked it was 36 or 37. There was a time we did up to 40. Pretty hot. You get to the point that even the ACs are not working effectively. But we're fine, we're fine, we're good. The rains are beginning to pop up here and there. So what are we going to be doing today.

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Let me tell you something. Let me let you in on some of my secrets. Usually I come, I see every day as an opportunity to hear God and walk with him and implement. Sometimes I come on stage or on set I beg your pardon maybe having something pre-recorded in my mind to talk about and somehow, between from the door to sitting, everything changes and I just, you know, lean on his grace. Sometimes I have this idea and I'm like how do I communicate it? Under my breath, I say those prayers for authorance, for clarity, to say them the way, not the way I want to say them, the way he wants me to say them, because there's somebody out there to listen the way he wants. You know, so many people listen to us, so many people follow us at different, should I say, stages in their lives. And what have you? And the word comes to you Somehow, the way we say it, it gets to you at that point of your faith, not your need, your faith, yep, faith. So what are we going to be doing today?

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I processed it, I talked about it Yep, faith. So what are we going to be doing today? I processed it, I talked about it as in with myself. It has to do with legacy, inheritance. So there's this word. I hear people say it every now and then I'm going to write my will, your testament, or I'm going to inherit this either from my father, most likely from the testator, the one who rides the wheel. But come to think of it, what is the greatest inheritance a man, a father, a mother can leave or be quit to their children?

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If you look at the great minds you know from scriptures, nobody was given an inheritance physical, most of them physical inheritance. Jacob wasn't given an inheritance physically, esau wasn't given. Joseph wasn't given. Daniel wasn't given. So what were they given? They were given an inheritance. What exactly were they given? That has been with me and I was like, okay, I'm going to talk about that on the show.

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So I'm going to read a couple of scriptures. Then we're going to land with a story I'm going to read from Genesis, genesis, chapter 18, verse 19. I have chosen him him here is Abraham so that he will direct his children and his household after him to keep the way of the Lord by doing what is right and just, so that the Lord will bring about for Abraham what he has promised him. Did you hear that. Now let me take it up again from Psalm 78, verse 5 to 7. For he established a testimony in Jacob and appointed a law in Israel, which he commanded our fathers to teach to their children. Take note of these words that the coming generation would know them, even children yet to be born. That sounds like inheritance to me. That they should put their confidence in God, not forgetting his works but keeping his commandments. Did you hear that? I'm going to read another scripture? This is Proverbs 13, verse 22. A good man leaves an inheritance to his children's children, but the sinner's wealth is passed to the righteous. So what is inheritance? I just read these scriptures. Key words you take from there teaching, generation, commandment, direction.

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Don't forget the question I asked earlier about were these great minds given an inheritance in terms of physical, material, tangible? No, most of them. Their fathers laid their hands on them and released the blessing, not a blessing, the blessing on them, and they went off. If you remember the story of Eliezer yep, that was Abraham's servant who was going to look for a wife for his master's son, that's Isaac. You remember when Abraham called him and said Place your hands. For those of us who have studied the scriptures, you will see it. Place your hands under my thigh, which was close to his private part, his testicles. That word testimony stems from the word testicles, because the testicles carry the genetic material, like we call it, the loins of human beings, like the sperm cells. The word inheritance is tied to hereditary, which stems from genetics. Follow my thoughts. So he told him. Swear to me. His servant did that. Long and short of it, god answered his prayer. So where am I going with this, you're wondering.

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You know, each time we look at our existence as human beings, a good number of us place our focus on the physicality, the outward, the material world, the biology, the chemistry and physiology, and all of that that we fail to see that there is something that transcends all of this. He said the righteous man leaves or bequits or gives an inheritance, not for just his children, his children's children, that is speaking of a genealogy or a generation. So what exactly does he leave behind? Obviously, it's not money. Obviously it's not material. He leaves behind the force of the blessing, the energy. Somebody said recently the problem is not making money, the problem is keeping money, is more of keeping money, managing it. You, you can make so much money, but if you don't have the force or the energy, the knowledge to manage it, the next generation will not see it. So what the righteous really leaves, that inheritance.

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This is how I see it, the relationship between the righteous and the righteous one. The righteous one, you know I'm talking about god. Yes, he breathes upon the righteous and it's like let's go a little bit um marvel yeah, you know fiction of non-fiction as a case, maybe imagine you watch those animations where you see one entity interacts with a community and he releases this breath, this is this breath, and the bread goes all over them In this smoky looking atmosphere and it's like that smoke overpowers and overshadows and overtakes them and they all begin to cut covenant and somewhere along the line the story goes, our fathers encountered XYZ and there was a prophecy that was said I know you get what I'm talking about. Basically, god caught covenant with Abraham and in cutting covenant with Abraham this is where I see it His energy was bound to that of Abraham's and Abraham left his belief system and took what Jehovah gave to him, understanding that there is a force higher than me and that force will empower me to produce, and that's why he said he gives power to make wealth, inheritance, our heritage. Now I'm going to read the story. Am I taking you on a rabbit ride? I know I'm not confusing you, am I? I'm not. You know how we do it on the show, you know. So I got the story about. I've heard about it a couple of times, but I had to, like, tell myself we need to talk about it to buttress the point of inheritance, heritage, what we bequeath to our generation, our children, our society.

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The story of jonathan, jonathan Edwards and Max Jukes. An interesting story. An interesting story. So now the story of them, these two people, jonathan Edwards and Max Jukes. You know he's the power of legacy, choice, environment, you know, and all of that. So let us start.

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Who was Jonathan Edwards? He was born 1703 to and he died 1758. Now let us look at him, a renowned American preacher, theologian and philosopher, key figure in the first great awakening, known for his fiery and brimstone Simon. That's fire and brimstone, Simon, remember it's seen as in the hands of an angry God. I've read that book when I was in secondary school. Edwards married Sarah Piermont Pierpoint, I beg your pardon and they had 11 children. He was deeply committed to faith, family and education. He later became the president of Princeton University. His legacy he studied, trist, around 1,400 of his descendants and reported, as in this was the report, he had 11 plus sorry, 100 plus lawyers and a dean of a law school, 80 plus holders of public office, including three US senators, three governors, one US vice president, Aaron Barr, his grandson, 13 college presidents, 100-plus missionaries, ministers, theology professors, 60 authors and many doctors, educators.

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All right, let us look at max dukes, 1700s. Nobody could tell when he died. From what I found out here, a contemporary of edwards. They were born about the same time. If you look at the time, edwards was 1703, max duke was 1700. 1700, that's like three years or something.

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A contemporary of edwards reportedly lived in New York, described as an atheist, idol and irreligious man who married a woman of similar disposition, lived a rough life with no emphasis on education or morality. Anadot, a socialist studying prison populations, found many Dukes descendants among inmates. His legacy of approximately 1,200 descendants 300 plus died prematurely, 100 plus were sent to prison. 1,900 plus became prostitutes, 100 plus were alcoholics. The family cost the state allegedly over a million dollars of that time. The value now would be in some, if not billions. So is this a myth or what. So the comparison is used as a morality tale about the impact of parenting values and faith. You know some of the aspects were exaggerated.

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The Duke study was published by sociologist Richard L Dogdale, or Dogdaly, in 1877. In the Duke's study, in crime, operism, disease and hereditary and hereditary. So that report point I mean, he pointed, was not of the of the hereditary issue. He did point to that, but he was also looking at environmental and social conditions like poverty, lack, education, what all of this played. But this is where I'm going with my story. These two people had, would I say, the same opportunity. What was the opportunity? Life One lifted it to God, the other.

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But the issue here now is a righteous man lives an inheritance. What is that inheritance? It is not material, it's relationship he left for his children, his walk with god. That was what he left for them. Somebody may say are you saying that he didn't leave any physical thing and all of that? That's not what we're talking about, what he left for them, and god always. That's why, if you read, if you're a bible scholar or go read any material historical archive or whatever, you will always see family trees, genealogy, this married, this, this bigot, this, this, that. So when you begin to trace all of that, you begin to see the character, you begin to see it play out. It's like it could be, it's not unconnected, yeah, so we need to be careful. As human beings, we need to be careful.

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Most of what we see today happening around us in the society and all of that is what an inheritance that was left for us. True, yep, some of us were acting, most of us were acting out of an inheritance, and you tell the next generation and the generation, and the cycle, the vicious cycle continues, and all of that. But when you see it and say, no, I can't leave this, I can't bequeath this to my children, I cannot, I cannot, I cannot, I cannot. I remember the story my granddad told us of, back home in the village, in our village, yes, a man who always wakes up in the morning with a glass of what do you call it now, alcohol was the best spirit dry gin or whatever, and he does incantations Every morning. He wakes up to do that. His little son always saw him. When the boy grew to a stage a particular day, he also stood up, put water in a cup. He just stood towards the sun or whatever, and was just chanting and everybody in the community were like how, that was what his father, the inheritance his father, left for him. He is. I don't want to tell you how it ended. Hello guys, we can leave a good inheritance for our children, for the society, for the world, for the community.

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Are you trying to say that our DNA has something to do with it? Well, from what we just read, your biology cannot stand your spirituality. Yes, take it from me. Your biology cannot stand your spirituality. Biology cannot stand your spirituality. We were made to understand by reading, by faith, that what is was not created by what we see. What is what we see was created by what we don't see. Yeah, so that's the truth and that's what I came to do on the show today.

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Inheritance there is this fight to steal our heritage, yes, and replace it with a false narrative. So it's like those of us who are to be the progenitors, carriers of true inheritance we're losing, we're beginning to believe in a lie. Hello, no, we carry grace, we carry glory. Let me tell you what we carry Cardboard. You know what I mean of cardboard. You know what I mean of cardboard Glory. Cardboard means the glory has departed. That's what we carry. So it renews, transforms our mind, so that everything that comes from us is refined. You now see why Scripture says by the renewing of your mind. You must know that your DNA is very powerful, but if your mind is not renewed, what comes from that powerful should I call it source becomes corrupted. Yep, so, guys, this is what we do and it's what I came to do on the show today.

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Inheritance a righteous man leaves for his children an inheritance. So, before I go, I'm going to read this a short poem for his children and inheritance. So, before I go, I'm going to read this short poem that I crafted. I hope it inspires you. Two lives once walked this earth, one with fire from heaven's heart. The other drifted, lost in aim, and yet each man still bore a name. Legacy is not left behind. It's passed on Voice to mind. Choose your seed, choose your seed, choose your soil, choose your son. The story is told when life is done. Yes, this is what I came to do on the show today. I hope you learned one or two from this series. Alright, guys, I need to run. Before I go, I need to say this Go ahead, follow us on all our social media outlet, instagram, facebook, now called X, not Twitter.

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