The Word Café Podcast with Amax
My unique message to the world is the power behind the words of our mouths. We have made light of it but cannot escape the fruits thereof. For me, words are the unit of creation, the building block on which our existence evolves. This podcast is for everyone who wants to better their living by using words and applying themselves wisely. I will be using the storytelling style fused with imaginative nuances to transport the listener to that place, where possibilities are not luxuries but everyday experiences; movie in voice.
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The Word Café Podcast with Amax
S4 Ep. 269 Unlocking The Global Economy Through Kingdom Mindset
What if “wealth transfer” isn’t a windfall, but a wake-up call to build, steward, and govern? We sit down with Apostle Obi Pax Harry to unpack a bold thesis: Deuteronomy 8:18 isn’t poetry—it’s policy. God gives the power to get wealth, which means the next decade favors those who pair prayer with plans, revelation with research, and vision with value chains. We track her journey through revivals in Nigeria and the UK and use it as a launchpad to rethink titles as functions, not status, and money as mandate, not magic.
From there, we chart four clear doors into the global economy: knowing your nation’s redemptive gifts, laboring to understand God’s will across earth systems, yielding to receive keys for hidden riches, and seeing with kingly perspective. That lens turns headlines into homework: BRICS currency moves, alternative payment rails, and even asteroid probes rumored to hold vast metals. If revelation is progressive, our stewardship must be too—into space, soil, and everything between. We explore how to turn resources into retained profits by building local processing, specialized schools, and intelligent supply chains that keep value at home.
The heart of this conversation is mindset. We confront doctrines that shrink capacity, especially the fixation on generational curses. Patterns exist, but patterns break when decisions change. Riches can vanish; wealth endures because it is decision-driven and designed to serve three generations. 2025 stretched many of us—2026 is the thrust. Expect partnerships, not solo heroics. Guard your thought life, because ideas are where prophecies land. And start where you stand: invest small and early, steward the land beneath your feet, and cultivate governance habits that match your calling.
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Good morning. Good afternoon. Good evening. Good everything. Good everything. How are you all doing? So we're back in the space. I have something amazing for you today. But before I bring my guest on, I have to ask that question. How are you? I'm good. I'm fine. Great. I have this amazing personality on set with me today. I met her, I will call it through a divine arrangement. Sometime in 2023, I stumbled upon her praying platform on Instagram and I joined in. And if you remember, after then, we did one production called The Angel of the Global Economy. Well, she's an amazing person. Great within the space, the Christian faith here in Nigeria and beyond globally. Her name is Apostle Obi Pax Harry. I won't say so much. I will bring her on. Then we'll begin the topic, the discussion for today. The angel of the global economy. Apostle, you're welcome.
SPEAKER_04:Wonderful. Do you know what I said? I said from 2026 that I will I wish to be addressed as I will be by Xared, the Apostle.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_04:You know what? Because this is a year for apostles, the function. And a lot of people think that apostle uh is a title. And once you think title, then you're gonna think worship. When you think function, then you're gonna think work. So apostles are actually workmen. So are um prophets, so are teachers, so are evangelists and pastors. And one of the things um we're gonna have to begin to correct is this. Because we're talking about wealth, you know, wealth of the mind, wealth of knowledge. So I decided, because I can be quite radical, that this year, because I hear people come up, my name is Apostle, that's not your name, please. Last we heard it wasn't your registered.
SPEAKER_00:That's more of a function.
SPEAKER_04:Exactly. It wasn't your registered birth name, right?
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_04:So now your name is Apostle A Max. And then when we ask you to do the apostolic function, we don't know.
SPEAKER_00:So yeah, I just wanted to put that out. Welcome, welcome. I I would like my audience to meet you. A little bit of introduction. Who is Obi Pax Harry the Apostle?
SPEAKER_04:Right. I I love that. So Obi-Paks Harry the Apostle is let me say from family. Start from family. Yeah. So Obi Pax Harry, the I'm I'm a wife, proud wife, I'm a mother, I'm a grandmother. Oh, and I'm a spiritual parent. You know, um, we say spiritual mother, but I want to say spiritual parent, spiritual figure, because um in our maturity, maturing process in Christ. So when we say spiritual mother, people even immediately think gender, and now we're not thinking the function again. So um the reason according to scripture, there's not a way that a female apostle should work, a male apostle, it's Christ in us the apostle. So I want to just put that out there. So I'm first a wife, mother, um, grandmother, um you know, family person. I come from a large family, you know. Um, my dad was a great educationist. So I come from an education background. Okay. My mom was an entrepreneur, so I come from that background as well. I went to school. Um, I I grew up in Enugu. My family, that's my route, Enugu. I come from Awari, Emo State.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_04:Um, Enugu was like one family when I was growing up. Then I went to school in Bini, Nidia College. Okay. Probably one of the first uh kids from the East that was sent to uh Midwest, it was then. And I thank God for that. So when I got to school, within two weeks I got born again. Because my school was just the school gate, it was just um right opposite where the late Archbishop uh Bensonita Hosa was setting up his church.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_04:Church of God mission. So this was a Yarrow motor pack. So, and we had these um six formers, uh, about three of them, maybe four. I mean, you literally put down your suitcase. These, I thought they were women. Now I know that they were just 16-year-olds.
SPEAKER_01:Whoa.
SPEAKER_04:They got hold of you, you know, they took you to church, they took you across the road, you know. And you're born again. We were just giving our lives to Christ, a Church of God mission, this place that um wasn't even much bigger than your space where the late Archbishop started. So I think it was God's um plan and desire that I should um be sent to the to Midwest uh state. I was sent to the uh governor then. There was they were starting a school for girls, and um I was quite sickly. I was I always had malaria in hospital and all of that. And um I had my story is crazy. So um in the Biafra, just after the war, family driving back to uh Anugu, where the car was going so fast, it was you know, as a tomboy, so I was with my brothers on this truck, and this thing was doing the driver was doing like 160 mph an hour. I was just flying, and then the Nigerian army was shooting at us, so bullets were just going past. I was so scared, I jumped off that truck, right?
SPEAKER_00:You don't see.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, and my brothers thought I died. So I ran through a farm and I got to where we'd been because you know, uh the war. I don't like to talk about bear. I get emotional, I want to cry because we really went through a lot.
SPEAKER_03:People went through a lot. Can you imagine?
SPEAKER_04:You know, so I ran through this farm, and just as I got to the other side, here my parents leave in. They were leaving for Inugurai. So I could have missed that ride, but God kept them. I ran through. Can you imagine how old was I? So jumped off, ran through. But you know what? As Christians, it's interesting that we know this. So the farm I ran through was loaded with, you know, um, I don't know what to call it now. Shall I say juju or shall I say what? It was there was so much, you know, evil in this thing, maybe planted on the ground or whatever. So by the time we got to Enugu, I developed this, you know, like uh flesh-eating thing. So my flesh was like rotten, my legs. So I'll be taken to the university teaching hospital. When they take out the bandage, you know, people are like, you could smell the so I had that, you know, and then malaria, malaria. So when others were taking exams to go to school in the east, I wasn't well enough to. And when I was uh well enough to to go to school, uh this school in Benin was starting. And amazing how it started. It had an entry in January and entry in September. So I was able to make so basically um I I this is just the foundation, you know, uh of faith for me, family. Yeah, and um yeah, so that's basically who I am married to a river uh man from River State. Okay, Buguma precisely.
SPEAKER_01:That's my brother.
SPEAKER_04:I'm a Nigerian. Yes, actually, our yes, we are just opposite right now. So I'm a Nigerian. So I come from um Iboland, married to the river, grew up in uh Midwest, and then went on to boarding school in England at the time where we didn't know tribes, so we're just Nigerian kids.
SPEAKER_00:Nigerian kids, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:And uh really had a happy uh teenage um yeah, came back to Nigeria to Nigerian law school, two years, you know, that was when I met my husband, so got married and then went back to England as a married person, and you know, continue to pursue faith. So I was, you know, born again quite quite early, like I said, Church of God mission. And um, yeah, I don't know. Maybe in the process, if there's anything else to tell, yeah, but this is basically, you know, uh who I am and how you know, so I had that early phase of uh uh being a fervent Christian, and then I had my second phase, which is the law school area. So as a kid, um teenager in London, we just had so much fun, you know, and uh fun in those days was healthy fun. Yeah, so I wasn't always this, you know, spiritual, whatever, whatever person. I think I I may have been on the crazy side. I think my friends, if they're sitting there, they'll say, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, so um we really had fun in London, you know, and I came back in 1988. I had another encounter with God. Oh, and that encounter was really back to the times of Noah when you know the floods took over. So it was just such a frightening encounter, and I rededicated my life. I was part of you know what you would call deeper life because the man who set up the church was assistant to Papa Kumuyi. Yeah, so he'd come to Podaka's setup. I'm a traditional Christian, really. Originally, I don't look at yeah. So I was part of um um uh uh that uh pastor uh what's his name? Akin something. I I remember. So I was part of the deeper life movement, and then what they called, you know, Podakot was the Bible hub of Nigeria at that time. Oh my god. Also JD Numbere, and we were part of Daniel International, uh Bishop bunting them, and it was I mean, this is this uh this this is these people were like, you know, so we're part of full gospel, you know, the full gospel was really Portal Court was just really so I had that phase and then went back to England. That was where I had an encounter. So call to ministry was the Lord appearing to me. You know, so that's basically my um background in a brief.
SPEAKER_00:You you you have a rich background here, culturally speaking, spiritually speaking, and you you you you're coming from a place of uh what I would describe originality.
SPEAKER_04:I forgot to tell you one thing, right? Go on. So about 1819, you know, um I was part of a prayer group that became the first redeemed in Europe. So I heard um Daddy Jo say this on God TV many years ago. This was in 1882, and that prayer group was centered around a Nigerian young man who had a right cancer of the jaw. And, you know, uh his family's quite well known. And he was then taken back to Nigeria. Maybe it was the first Holy Ghost night, I don't know. But, you know, I mean, Daddy Jew prayed, and that thing split, you know, open. And the the sister told me this story herself, and you know, and and uh drained uh purse for like seven days. And when he was brought back to London, because it was stage four, it was given to death, and it it was really the aunties. I was the youngest person, and this lady that didn't know me would come and pick me up every Tuesday. Huge university. She didn't know who I was, and I just used to feel like maybe they saw me in Golliver's the nightclub that we used to go to as teenagers and picking. Did anybody tell them I was at Golliver's? I didn't do anything bad. Why does she, you know, every Tuesday religiously, she'd come and take me to this uh prayer meeting. And then we had this tall man come and he said he was a mathematician in Unilag and he was the geo and all of this stuff. So I'm you know, I'm uh Anglican family. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And this was uh Daddy Adibo.
SPEAKER_04:Yes. So I wasn't really used to the Pentecostal thing.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_04:Not only is my family Anglican, I come from the village where the Bible was translated to Igbo. Ibo. So, you know, missionaries there. And then I come from a family where after church the bishop will come visit us, and that used to upset me. Why is the bishop visiting us? We've just been in church. Is that not good enough? Is that not enough powers? Why is the bishop coming home? So you can see, you know, so I come from a very Christian uh background that the bishop will come after church. Oh my God, you know, so I wasn't used to that. So the he came, the stall man, and they said, um, if we're all to go to Nigeria, there was something called Holy Ghost Night and all this stuff. I didn't go. But that's where that guy got hailed. So I wanted to bring this up because I've been part of several revival foundations, I realized. So there was the late Archbishop Bensonito Rosa, then there was the prayer group that became redeemed, and then I got married and we moved to Soly Hall. And I was part of a renewal Christian center was called where a revival broke out, the healing revival cancers. I led the prayer group. I prayed for a year, and this revival broke out. Now, so I I think that's that's pretty much um my background. I've been I've been part of revival foundations. Um really, I was told that uh at age six I would, you know, uh be part of teaching in the cat um in the cathedral uh in Owari. So yeah, that's I think I've been uh I I I just have had this love for the Lord Amax.
SPEAKER_00:I I think you have this rich, like I said uh earlier, rich heritage, rich background. You've encountered so many generations and uh you are what I will call a capsule. You have a lot encapsulated on the inside. Now I would like us to look at the angel of the global economy. You know, when you called and I said to myself, why not? Let's talk about it. I went back to listen to the production, what we did. Uh so guys, like I said a while ago, I encountered uh Obi Pax Harry, the apostle, in 2023, almost three years now, and one thing led to the other, and I stumbled upon that message he was talking about, the angel of the global economy. I spent my time going through it, and we had this production, and that's why she's here. You know, a lot of us seem not to understand the wealth transfer principle that the scripture talked about. But that message, that encounter, you spoke so much about it. I want us to begin from there.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I think it's very, very important that um we understand that there's a difference between um religion and spirituality. And um let me preface what I'm gonna be sharing with uh an experience I had in year 2020.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_04:The Lord said to me, He says, I'm gonna shake seminaries, I will shake Bible schools, I will shake these places, and I will shake doctrines. It seemed like God was saying, I'm gonna, I'm gonna take the lead off so much, and um, that has been capped. And the Lord says doctrines that have held down whole continents. And I think I saw Africa highlighted there. Uh, and so many of us, you know, um, we read the Bible and um we read about encounters of angels had by people like Abraham, like people like Daniel, um even in the New Testament, um, Mary and all, and then we think this is this is Disney or something, you know? And um, and we've been taught by theologians, everybody has their opinion, but the Lord said to me in 20 years, 2020, since I'm older than theology. I am older than theology. So we're gonna understand, you know, that our spiritual experiences, right, must have, you know, uh anchor root in scripture, but it can be beyond what anybody ever experienced. You see what I'm saying? True. So the things that Daniel experienced, angelic, you know, encounters, visitations, and all of that, you know, uh maybe in his time it it was beyond, it was futuristic. Okay. So I'm used to angels. I'm used to angelic encounters. In fact, wasn't it in year 2002, maybe three, I did a tour to Israel, and during that time we uh lost one of our delegates and at the prayer uh praying war, and as we were looking for her, this man appeared and said, Look over there, right? And there she was. And we turned to say thank you, he'd vanished. So why am I saying this? I'm saying this to um get us all to understand that uh the work of angels, right, still, you know, with us, and we have to understand that no matter what you know anyone says, root it in scripture and understand that God says he's gonna give you experiences that may, you know, shock the you know, the even theologians. All right. So the ministry of angels, I encountered this angel, right? Like I shared at that time. Swift is the one in Lagos. So this is the this one, he just said, I am the angel. The global economy over the global economy. So he sat at the gate, even the way he was dressed. Very, very it's all on YouTube. So, people viewers, you can go watch this on YouTube. Yeah, but I want to just read out because I don't want to miss anything that angels exist to serve God in five ways. So we we have to understand. Because we are in a decade, a really powerful decade. Yet 2020 to 2030 is given to the saints to possess the kingdom. There are some things that if you miss in this 10-year period, you're not going to be able to recover because we would be going into a future where there will be greater trouble. See what I'm saying? So the essence of what you're going through, what God wants to do, right, is to, you know, put us in positions where, you know, a lot of people say, oh, yeah, the Bible says, Job says when they say casting, that you say there's a lifting. But the the practical that that scripture in present truth means you have overcome so much that you're strong enough to deal with the troubles of the time because there will be troubles. And Jesus said in Matthew 24, there will be troubles, but in verse 6 it says, see that you're not troubled. All right. So angels exist to serve God. And if they're serving God, they're serving us on the earth. Okay. The Bible tells us here that they're there to bless the Lord, right? So they bless the Lord in worship. And the the work of these angels that I'm talking about is captured in Psalm 103 and Psalm 104. So, number one, remember, to serve the Lord, to bless the Lord in worship. So they're there to bless the Lord. They're there to do his word, all right? So they're there to do his word as you speak. They're there to do, they're there to minister on God's behalf, they're there to do God's pleasure, the Bible says, and they're there to heed the voice of God's word. So Deuteronomy 8.18 is a law. The Lord said to me, and I people don't even know that God speaks this way. He says, it's illegal to be broke. It's illegal to be broke. Because Deuteronomy 8.18 is a law. All right. It's a law. So when you break it, when you allow yourself to be broke, when you give excuses, you know, to be broke, you're breaking a law as new creation. Right? It's a it's a it's an it's an old testament promise, but it's one that you know you take through Jesus. Yeah. So not all scriptures, you know, but it's one that you pull through Jesus. And when you pull it through Jesus, it's a heightened promise, yeah, right? Right. That he gives us the power to get wealth. Now, scripture is given to us, right? Not just to navigate circumstances of our times, but to come into governance, to come into administration, to come into our stewardship, right? Right per time, scripture brings a meaning, a max that helps you manage the time. So think about it. If we are in a decade given to the saints to possess the kingdom, according to Daniel 7, 22, right? And if Revelation 11, 15 works with this, so let's do the math. The kingdoms of this world. So we're talking about philosophies, ideologies, we're talking about narratives, we're talking about every tool that the world system. I mean, you look at Forbes list, how many born-again Christians are on there? Right. So we're talking about these things, right?
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_04:That he says they have become, not they will become. So the kingdoms of this world have become. So anything that is a kingdom is uh an ideology, a philosophy that has enough weight that is about it's able, right, to create paradigms that sh that change, you know, literally even captivate people, shift mindsets, get people to doubt whether God is or not. You know, but it says that, you know, these things have been given to us, the kingdoms of this world, you know, have become the kingdoms of the Lord and his Christ, and he shall reign forever and ever. So this is an announcement of the cross.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:That Jesus has come, he died when he said it is finished. It just means that whenever you and I locate a truth, biblical truth, and we pull it down and it becomes doctrine. So we're able to release people. Wealth mandate is the mandate of this decade, is the mandate of this decade. Yeah, 2026 is so important. So a lot of um Christians talk about wealth transfer, and why we're not seeing this become realities that they they're not thinking about it. How is that gonna happen? Wealth transfer. Well, I want to just bring somebody some you know news that no one is gonna, God is not going to take wealth that has been labeled for by a man, somebody you perceive evil, right? You perceive not a Christian or in church. So suddenly God is gonna take their money and give to you. Then that means God's a robber. God is not a robber, he's not a thief, yeah. No, and it's not his will that any should perish. Yeah, right? Right. So again, another thing is that we don't understand how much God loves the unbeliever. So we think that, you know, God created Adam. God didn't create a born-again uh Christian, he created man. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, and it is God's will that that man should not perish. The kingdoms of this world have become, if the kingdoms of what have become, Emacs is just for you and I to go take possession. True. So um this angel sat at the gate, sat majestically, on a keg, casually, and the gate didn't have any walls. So every time I seen these angels at gates, there's no walls, right? And the angel, like I said, uh is mighty. He sat there and he introduced himself. He said, I'm the angel over the global economy, and he began to, because angels serve us, we don't serve them. Yeah, was very ancient. And he says, I am responsible to man this gate. Right?
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_04:I have met one that is the angel of a transformation. I met Swift that was released in Lagos, 2023, and come to work with a generation of people so that things happen very fast. Very fast. Okay, right. Right. And uh, and this this angel began to give detailed accounts of 10 years. Because, you know, God's calendar works in 10-year cycles, it peaks. At the end of 10 years, there's there must be a shift. And now here we are, uh 2026. So it becomes an emergency that we enlighten the body of Christ. Uh, and and just as I said, it's God's will. God says it's illegal to be broke. Why is it illegal to be broke? Because He gives us the power to get wealth. And what does that mean to you and I in this era? It means that God gives us a cognition, right? The the cognition that we are being exposed to every um form and channel for learning. So there is no excuse, you see, not to gain knowledge, right? Daniel prophesied about a time like this. Yeah, he said that knowledge will increase. People will run to and fro, Daniel, in chapter 12 and verse 4. So people think that God's just gonna get somebody's money and give to them. Oh, God will do it. Well, he's already done it. You are expected to go get it. Oh, you know, all these different uh confessions. Remember, I said, God said, I'm gonna shake seminaries, I'm going to shake Bible schools. And uh to my Western world brothers and sisters, right? So, you know, we've been brought theology, women doctrines have held down Africa, all right? And and this is an era, this is a time, and this is an important year that Africa be, you know, loose, right? Africans come out of these, you know, uh doctrines that have held them down. So you think that before you get money, you have to fast a hundred year days, you have to perform this act and perform that act. But such rituals, it doesn't even, it's not gonna work because you know the heavens is operated by law.
SPEAKER_01:By laws.
SPEAKER_04:By laws. You see what I'm saying? The principles that are eternal, yeah, they're never gonna change. All right. So this angel began to give four categories of people that he can open the gates. And remember, I gave five ways that you know angels are to serve the Lord, and Psalm 103 and 104 uh captures the mistake people make, guys, is we think that the Bible is this holy book that we just put away, and oh my God, if we put our mugs on it, oh, we're gonna go to hell and all these different things. But the Bible is a great book that has principles that is keeping the world, whether it be sociology, whether it be archaeology, whether it be philosophy, whether it be you know economy, whether it be even architecture, yeah, whatever it is, I've come to know, understand, AMAX, that I mean, physics, I mean, Genesis chapter one, come on. Yeah. The law of velocity, the law of light, the law of I mean, so many laws by which God created.
SPEAKER_00:You know, just to corroborate what you said, not to uh stop your thoughts. Uh you stop my thoughts and bring it. Peterson, uh Jordan Peterson. He's this famous uh, I think he's uh psychologist, you know, in Canada. He's faced a lot of uh what do you call now criticism for his work and a theist who encountered God and the way he he talks about God is amazing. So he was tracing the origin of the English language, the culture, the ways, the doings, and everything. You cannot disconnect it from the scriptures, and he proved it.
SPEAKER_04:I'm not surprised.
SPEAKER_00:He did. Jordan P. Peterson is well known in that space, you know, one of those who fought against the me movement ideology of uh him versus him, her, and all of that, you know. So just to corroborate what you're saying, the world cannot operate without the word of God.
SPEAKER_04:It's not possible. It's not possible. And for us, uh, let me throw this in very quickly so that you know, we're trying to have a really relaxed conversation here, but yet it's very serious because we want people to understand what this year is given for. A lot of people went through stretching uh in 2025, and the stretching is for a thrusting, just like stretching for thrusting. Just like David and Goliath, right? So when David pulled that catapult back.
SPEAKER_00:The sling.
SPEAKER_04:That's a the sling, that's a that's a a stretch. Stretch. So that that's just stretch, leaning into God, my God. By the end of 2025, I thought I was the only one, but everywhere I've been, everybody went through the same thing, stretching.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:So now here we are, right? And we're in the year of thrusting. So you better expect yourself to be thrust out and you're gonna hit the mark. And when you throw out as well, you're gonna take out the giants. Okay? So one of the giants, you know, uh that we're gonna take out is this poverty thing. Yeah. Is this often spirit thing? Is this, you know, uh slave mindset, right? If scripture be true, he has given you the power to get wealth. We're not talking about money now. There are a lot of narcissists in church, there are a lot of sad people who get very upset when you talk about money. I have come to understand, you see, 2026, oh my God, is a year of greatness. It's a year, you know, to begin to come into the kingly, kingly appointment of you and I as new creation.
SPEAKER_01:Yes.
SPEAKER_04:It's about the kingly dimension.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:And um, the thing about God, I've been saying that God doesn't generalize, okay? So there's always the pioneers who are gonna go first. There's people that are coming after them. There's people, so that's why God doesn't have a scale that measures. It's not a it's not a this versus that, it's not who's better. It's just that there are people that are are going to have to, right? You know, because in their nature, they were created to be pioneers. There are people that are gonna have to break through, there are people that are gonna have to be like perez, they're just going to have to, you know, you know, defy the odds and come out and begin to speak. And so there's a lot of people that are gonna be talking about wealth. So that's not money, right? We're talking about, you know, this angel gave four categories. And it's all people, you know, who are going, it's all about the kingdom.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:So I found out, I mean, the amount of money I've had to spend in a month taking people out to lunch and to dinner and all of this stuff. So now I know that honestly, this is about that's what money is given for, right? Right. Because if you're a king, right, you're gonna have to entertain people. Yes. Look at how, you know, Ahaziras. I mean, the the coming down of Vash and the bringing up of Esther. We talk about Esther. This thing came, you know, with several days of feasting and preparation and all. You see what I'm saying? It didn't, you know, the the throws didn't come down in the time of mourning. You know, the exchange didn't happen in the time of mourning. It happened in the time of feasting. Think about it. Think about how much money. Ah, Cirrus. He was he was lavish, right? The the the number of days and times and everything. So this angel says, Well, you know, that I'm the angel overgoing. So I open to anyone who knows and understands God's will for the economy of nations and peoples. So he says, I'm gonna open to anyone who understands the redemptive gift of their nation. Think about it. I'd like you to come in there. So, what's your nation? What do you what has God blessed your nation with? What is the redemptive gift? What are the redemptive gifts of your nation? What defines your nation? What are the resources that are placed in your nation to build that nation?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_04:So as a as a as a as a born-again Christian, ecclesia now, all right. So you have a mandate. Yeah, go therefore, go disciple the nations. So a disciple is an imitator of the master. So if your master is rich, if a cattle on a thousand hills belong to your master, the gold and the silver, if your master has the power to transfer to you, transferable power to get wealth, if all power belongs to your father, right?
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_04:If all riches and glory belong to your father, right, and you are a son of the father, you have an inheritance. I don't think you're your your your honestly, you know, according to scripture, none of us is disinherited or disqualified. So why do we think we should inherit poverty? I just want to know. So I have this passion. I've gone back to Genesis 1. I was writing a book. I said, when I'm maybe a little bit like what's going on here, I go to Genesis chapter 1. That's where I go to ask God, what was your intention in creation? Yeah. All right. So this angel says, anyone, because Jesus said, watch and pray lest you fall into temptation, right? He didn't say pray and watch. And watch in the Hebrew concept is perceive, observe, not with the eyes, but the eyes of your intelligence, the eyes of your mind, going in the mind of Christ. So we are mandated to be intelligent. We're mandated to understand stuff, please. We're mandated to do research. We're mandated to speak uh data-driven, you know, have data-driven conversations. We're mandated to be thought leaders. It's not, it's not supposed to be a surprise to us, right? I'm described as a thought leader, but yeah, I am. I should be, right? Why shouldn't I be? Because, you know, you're called to operate from the place of eyes have not seen, ears have not heard, nor has the heart of man comprehended. So everyone that history's captured never operated from here, this side, okay? They operated from the future.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. Oh, everybody, Elon Musk. So if I'm speaking into this microphone, right? If if if the next thing that I'm going to invent is a microphone, I haven't pioneered anything. It's still a microphone. It's been done, it's familiar. Yeah. But I must be able to go beyond this. And then I fulfilled the 1 Corinthians chapter 2, you know, verses 7 to 8 dimension of. So this angel says, I will open to anyone who's prepared to come ask. Right? So, for instance, if you think about think about Nigeria, right? So Nigeria is blessed with oil, gas, for instance, but it's blessed with rich soil for agriculture. And so many other things, right? So this angel is saying, if you want to pioneer a move, school, why you know, schools where kids from kindergarten begin to get educated in what God's given them. Right? Right. So if that's right thinking, right thinking. Right. And begins to uh build businesses, right? That preserve their inheritance. Why don't we have every state school of petroleum, school of gas, school of mineral resources and all of that? Why do you have to have people from China come come tell you what you have and then steal what you have from you? Or come from Italy, take your leather from Cano, go fit go process it, come back, and then you buy it. So Africa, Ghana. So they take your cocoa, they take it there, they make chocolate, right? Right. So I used to attend IMF and you know, World Bank, you know, uh summits in DC. And I remember the last one I attended. Uh, you know, so all these people, like the Africans, they were saying, oh, this guy was calling me. Come, come. Over here, say what's happening there. He said, That's where the CSOs are. I said, No, I didn't come here for CSOs. I'm gonna be here where they're discussing the wealth of the world. So that's where value chains are being discussed. And I'm looking at all these Africans, I'm thinking, how can someone come from Switzerland, Amax, to tell you how to take your cassava from the villages to the city to sell? So value chains. So so just note that. So I've been on point one and just saying why, you know, this angel's message is very important and why 2026 is the year that everybody has to just rise up. Yeah, right, that everything on the earth created by God is resource is useful.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:The soil just at the back of your home can create wealth. I'm old enough to tell you. I was just telling someone that, you know, the type of wealth we're talking about, right, is what my mind captured even at age three, at age four. I come from the Igbo tribe, right? And farming was quite a big deal. And the the the the barns, right? The way that the yams were arranged and all of that, that was wealth in those days. In those days. Wealth, your yams and all of that. You know, and we talk about digitization and we talk about you know data uh management, we talk about, you know what I mean, all these things. It started in the villages in Africa. Do you understand?
SPEAKER_02:True.
SPEAKER_04:Africans are naturally endowed to create wealth, to manage wealth, yeah, and to transfer wealth.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:So Africans are naturally endowed with knowledge and understanding of value chains. You see. So these are wealth is not the money in the bank, and I'm gonna come to that very quick, uh, quickly. So the second, he said, category of people, he said, I open to those who labor to know and understand the will of God for his earth realms.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_04:And I kind of think the gentleman that you mentioned is this those who labor. So labor mentally. And Africans, you cannot labor mentally if you believe you're under a curse. Generational curse, bloodline curse, this, that, that. That's part of the doctrine that caused the sin is gonna be shaken. Yeah, that's not for ecclesia. Oh, I I asked Chad GPT, give me reference of generational curse in the book of Acts. It will amaze you in Acts. It's nothing like that. It was short of telling me it's rubbish. He said, People believed in God, they believed, you know, you just need to go check this. Okay. So those who labor, those who study, those who believe in, you know what I mean, the dignity of work. Yeah, and not just name it and get it, you know, and all of this stuff.
SPEAKER_00:Diligence.
SPEAKER_04:Yes, exactly. The diligent. He says this I will open the gate.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:So they're gonna get more diligent, they're gonna get more inspiration, yeah, they're gonna have divine partners, yeah. They will be trusted, right? To meet important people, they will have the language, they will have the knowledge. Hey, Max, please can you help me tell people? Nothing just comes like that. You're gonna work for it. That's why we're not on Fob's richest people's list. Those who think and those who thought are the ones on the list. So we gotta do the math. Yeah, okay. And I'm a woman of prayer, I'm a very spiritual person. So I'm not saying don't pray. I'm not saying don't fast. I'm not saying I'm saying you gotta recognize the times and recognize what scripture is given for. Yeah. And understand that this angel, it's crazy. Everything that the angel said is happening. Like he says in this year, up to 2027, you see an alignment with China and Russia, that's happening. Then breaks the BRICS nations. Or God's gonna help us because the alliance, if it's allowed, what the the the outcome will fallout? We don't know. And then it speaks about, you know, just what will happen to the economy of nations. Yeah. Speaks about the yen and the dollar, you know, having this conflict. So there's a gentleman, wherever he is, you know, apostle you didn't tell who has been watching over this word, and he would, you know, message me when something is on the news and all that. So remember, those who labor to know and understand the will of God for his earth realm. So God is concerned for the earth realm, every piece of it. So those who bother to watch the news, to watch what is happening, yeah, and then pray that what shouldn't happen, not happen. This angel says, Listen, I'll give you guys visibility, right? I'm I'm I'm I'm instructed to open. So, which means that God's loaded what we need, right? Yeah, and this angel is sitting there, and the angel is not God, it's a servant, it's a messenger to us, lower than us. Yeah, but it says, When you have that understand, that desire, so I'm gonna give you, right?
SPEAKER_00:So you you know, from 2023, from the my record, from the time of the encounter till present, when I look at the different timelines, we've seen a lot of shifts. You know, you see, economically speaking, you know the issue of uh space probing. You know, you one of the messages within the prophecy when you were talking about was a probe. An asteroid. Yes, yeah. So there's been a lot of probes ongoing there, NASA and the rest of them probing, and you know, you ask yourself, why are you probing if there's nothing there?
SPEAKER_04:And remember, the asteroid is going on, it's a six-year journey and it's going to max in 2029. Yeah, and the angel said by 2029, you and I should have had enough money. So here's God saying 2029. NASA sent of this asteroid to this place, right? Is it asteroid even is called? Right.
SPEAKER_00:Can you probe him? And yeah, the probe is to probe the asteroids from their search and all that.
SPEAKER_04:An asteroid is supposed to have more gold than the world can even handle. My god, that's really powerful. Even last night, right? I just sensed there was something happening, it had cosmic implications, and we're checking NASA, and there is right, there is uh I'll I'll try and remember and tell you. So we've got to come up to that level.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:You see, where we're operating at that level, right? Because we're we're man god here on the earth.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:We're where we're man god. We just have to believe that.
SPEAKER_00:There was this currency war.
SPEAKER_04:Yes.
SPEAKER_00:From 2023, you know, Russia, yeah, China, and it's still happening now again. And the US, you know. Yes, the international transfer, what do you mean? Remember? The Swiss code or something. Yeah. Russia had to like, okay, we won't use this anymore. And then China came up with this thing where transfers happened like you have to pay in UN or you pay you buy in rubies as a case, maybe. So we did this period, we've seen all of this. I'm just corroborating.
SPEAKER_04:And and what you and I are discussing right now at this point, I think I came across that, right? Where maybe US just this is just hypothetical, guys. So if it took uh three weeks to make a uh a dollar transfer between nations, this is not individuals, nations between nations in that war, China reduced the three weeks to like three minutes.
SPEAKER_01:Yes.
SPEAKER_04:And everybody was there, you know, and I wanted to really go deep into that to just understand. So, what you and I are talking about as sons of God, we have to come to that level to understand these shiftings, okay? So that we can be in that space. Because what this angel is saying is that if we come up to that level, that we're gonna be given, we're gonna be making made masters of these movements, right? We're not supposed to just be there watching all this happen on the news. We are supposed to have masters.
SPEAKER_00:We're supposed to be the news.
SPEAKER_04:Exactly. We're supposed to have mastery, we're supposed to be given, right? The intelligentsia, we're supposed to be given. We're so really ecclesia are supposed to be man in NASA. See what I'm saying? I do. Because on the fourth day, when God created, you know, the sun, the moon, the the stars, right? For you know, times and calendars and all that, we remember that on the sixth day he created man and gave man, right? Give man the right. Say be fruitful and multiply. Feel the uh the thing is have dominion. The thing is that Africa has been thinking dominion is go and sit on top of someone and we've missed it. So my passion and my mandate this year is to make sure we recover our minds, okay?
SPEAKER_00:I know you have you have uh a summit coming up.
SPEAKER_04:Yes, wealth summit.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Let's talk about that.
SPEAKER_04:Okay. So um to boost this, yeah, or I don't want to say to boost it like I had an idea, but the Lord placed on me a burden, you know, to go to Cape Town and hold a global wealth summit. So look at the timing with 2026 with what the angel has said, okay? So, you know, let me give you the third category of people here who opened it says those who are yielded to God's plans that they may go in to receive keys to unlock treasures of darkness. I saw a golden key dug into the ground of Cape Town. I don't know anything about Cape Town.
SPEAKER_00:You know where I'm smiling about treasures of darkness. We who was I having this conversation and the treasures of darkness came up this very perhaps this is the year for that.
SPEAKER_04:I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:The treasures of darkness. And I was like, okay, when you talk about darkness, it's not like obscurity per se, but or something spooky, but it's something beyond hidden wisdom that we've got to go to.
SPEAKER_04:Look at it, right? Treasures of darkness.
SPEAKER_00:Thank you.
SPEAKER_04:Complex things made the world system swallowed up and and made complex. I I hosted this thing called Advance Um uh Advanced Ecclesia in London, Ecclesia Advance, Advance Ecclesia. And one of the speakers began to, I grew up in London when in the age 16 and a half and all that. They cannot tell us. I didn't even know this that London was the richest um city, perhaps in the world, right? The amount of wealth in that place. I mean, this guy, the lecture, it's on my YouTube, please. If you can go access it, because I have to go watch it myself as well. So this man was an expert. He taught us so much about that particular city, London. And God has said, go there and have this ecclesia advance. And it was about wealth. And remember, the Hollywood conference was again about wealth, about you know, the kind of movies that must be made by believers to bring back, you know, the family, because out of the family is gonna come these people, right, who are gonna ask for the wealth mandate. Okay, so treasures of darkness. I didn't even say this is you give us keys to unlock. So I saw Golden Key dogging the land, you know, Cape Town. I haven't researched Cape Town, done anything about it. Only two days ago that I got videos of venue, right? And um hidden riches in secret places. So I just believe that, and I'll tell you what this is all about. So, and and and he says the fourth category is that the people, those who see uh as the Lord sees, so those who see perspectives that they may establish the kingdom of God where they are positioned. So your those who have godly, kingly perspective, courageous, audacious, you know, people who are gonna receive, you know, those mysteries and and and believe to execute, right? Says these are the people because these people can be trusted. Wealth is not put trusted in the hand of a child. Jesus even said it says, I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. That's after I have built you as a legislative uh uh assembly, then I will give you the keys, okay? And it's interesting, it says whatever you bind on earth, so the action is you and I. What action we take, heaven is gonna support us, yeah, right? So so whatever you bind on earth, the bound in heaven, right? When Jacob you know got to Bethel when he put his head on that rock, you would think natural thinking that the angels will be coming from heaven, but they were coming from the earth, right? To heaven. So the angel exactly descended. So the angel says, This is what I'm gonna do. So the whole thing about the world summit and guys, the whole thing about wealth, right? The Lord said to me, every believer, every one of you listening to us, says, every believer has been constituted to secure wealth for three generations. It's an instruction, it's a mandate. So this conference is about release of generations of three three generations, generational wealth.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:All right.
SPEAKER_00:So we can't when when is it? What time is it?
SPEAKER_04:It's in June.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_04:It's in June.
SPEAKER_00:It's the first week of the year.
SPEAKER_04:So so Emmax, look at this. Go ahead. So God says, everyone, you are mandated to get wealth for three generations. You and three generations of your bloodline. He gives us the power to get wealth. What's wealth? Wealth is not riches. A rich man is not necessarily a wealthy man. Because your money, your riches can filter in one day. But wealth, what makes it generational, is the quality of decisions you take. Can you see what I'm saying? So think about that village um picture of the yam, the ban. Those women, those farmers, those people were so rich, so wealthy, they never lacked. So, what it is, is your ability to make investment decisions. So that's the boundary of my assignment. So it's about investment, it's about the decisions you make, it's about your mind. It's about your one dollar that becomes one million dollars, right? And um, what's his name? Is it Jak Ma? You know the Alibaba guy? Is it Ali? Is he Ali?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, the Alibaba guy.
SPEAKER_04:Do you know what the guy said?
SPEAKER_00:Jak Ma.
SPEAKER_04:Jak Ma. Yeah. So I I teach this in my what in my um wealth creation class. This guy said, he said, I didn't, I, I don't, I didn't do anything. I don't, I there was nothing ingenious I did. He said, look, I take your money and I send you your goods. He doesn't have a physical warehouse or physical warehouses all over the world. Just had an idea. An idea that transferred goods, right? Created services without any overheads. Think about it, guys. This is crazy. That's what you and I should be operating. But if you and I think our great-grandfather stopped us, our neighbor has stopped us, our this has stopped us. You see, listen, Africa has been held down by doctrines such as generational curse, such as, I mean, some people say blood bloodline curse, this, that. It's crazy. Let me tell you what it is. This is not to say that generational, I don't even think you and I as new creation ecclesia. I'm radical enough to say this. Let theologians have the conversation. I don't think you and I should be talking about generational curse according to Galatians chapter 3, right?
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_04:We make the cross of no effect. Here's how you and I remember what I said that every season scripture is given to us to manage the times, the seasons, to administrate, to keep discipling nations, to keep winning souls, to keep our cities, our spaces transformed. You and I have a mandate to come up with ingenuity, right? Like they did in the times in Egypt, right? Where you don't have open gutters, where you don't have light issues. Come on. I grew up in Biafra. How did they make all those things that were being used? I was a Biafra, not a soldier.
SPEAKER_03:You know, our playtime was we were soldiers and we had to match. So that was our playtime anyway. Come back to this.
SPEAKER_04:So you and I have been given ingenious minds. Yeah. If you're a believer, you're mandated. Yeah, remember wealth is in the decision you make Amax. Your 10,000 naira put in the right stocks, yeah. Buying even one thing, and how you manage the one thing, all right? So I sat in this property in London and I looked at this stuff. And I said, These people have fulfilled this generational wealth thing. Okay. So the value of that apartment, if the children of the owner, that so they inherited from their parents, if they sold that apartment, they would have enough to buy their own, and their children will have enough to buy. That's three generations.
SPEAKER_00:Three generations.
SPEAKER_04:See what I'm saying? Yeah. So here's what I'm saying, guys. And I'm not being like, I'm not hitting on Africans, neither am I hitting on Europeans, neither. I'm just saying to believers, here's what the scripture says, all right. But I'm addressing something that the Lord uh spoke to me, right? Right. Spoke to me. So that's my mandate, right? So don't hit on me for my mandate, right? That we have to come out of this understanding that somehow what your great-great-great-grandfather did is has the ability to stop you from it's lazy, but lazy thinking.
SPEAKER_00:Jesus took that away.
SPEAKER_04:This is it, but yeah, people have bang on about this. And have you noticed that people like all this mysterious stuff? Somehow you just feel so so cool that you're then bringing people out of, right? But we're called to set them free. Here's what we need to begin to tell everyone. Yeah, there are generational patterns, all right? Right. So that's how I teach it. So breaking free from the curse of haran. What makes it a curse is that you yourself have a mistake, an error in your family that is like a booby trap, landmine, and you walk into it, right? If everybody else has been diabetic, shouldn't you really decide you're not gonna be? Change your diet, change your way of life. You can beat this. Your body is controlled by your mind. Your mind doesn't control your body. You know? Body is controlled by your mind. But we think that our body controls our mind. So our minds control our bodies, you see. So once you believe that you're cursed, bloodline, curse, then you're gonna believe it. Right? And you're gonna, yeah. But once you take what I'm saying to you, test it, the Bible says test all things.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Folly. So in today's, right? In in present truth, and especially now that God is telling us go into the world, make investments, buy property, think about it even, Amax. When you think about it, you're going to start to regulate your finances.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Your financial planning will, you know, in fact, even your enjoyment, right? So if I have dinner of a hundred thousand, I'm going to be thinking how I'm going to make it back up. And I'm not thinking. In my community, we don't, since we stopped, I taught my people never to say destiny helper. People started to grow. Because once you think destiny helper, you're going to have a picture. You have a suggestion of who this destiny helper is.
SPEAKER_00:Should look like.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. But when the destiny, you call them destiny partner, you activated scripture, Genesis 8.22. As long as the earth remains. Seed time and harvest. So anyone that sows into your life, you're giving them the opportunity.
SPEAKER_00:That's true. That's true. A pardon.
SPEAKER_04:So you're giving them a you're giving them opportunity. So no one should feel like somebody's god. You have this God there, they've just suddenly come to change your life and all that. So remember, you're what you think. So when you think, you know, so you sow into my life because generosity, be fruitful and multiply. So this angel, so we're going to um Cape Town, and we believe that we're gonna there's something will be unlocked. And I believe that Africa has the wealth mandate. I believe that what was on Egypt, ancient civilization has multiplied all over you know Africa. And so we're going to Cape Town, and we're going, you know, on the foundation of what this angel said. And I really would, you know, want as many Christians, right? We can fit into these four categories.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:I can say, yes, Lord, trust me with your you know, wealth principles.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:And especially this year where you know um we're coming into our kingly nature, what that means is our ability to rule, govern. So if you're given an opportunity, before you can rule over that opportunity, right, you must come into the discipline of governance. Every one of us, you see what I'm saying? Remember, if you think a max that you have a responsibility to secure three generations of your bloodline.
SPEAKER_00:Definitely.
SPEAKER_04:Right? You're meant to release the generational blessings. What's your problem with generational curses, right? You're not going to be, you can't be thinking that because you can't make mistakes.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:I deliberately write down errors I see in my bloodline. And I say, I'm not gonna do it. This pattern stops. No, I have a plan for what I'm going to do to this age, to that age. The reason you've been kept alive to see the mistakes is that you don't repeat them. Yeah, it becomes a curse when you repeat them, not before you repeat them. Do you know what I love about God? Everything that God teaches through his spirit makes sense. Uh that's kingdom dimension.
SPEAKER_02:It does.
SPEAKER_04:And you know, we're of the same tribe. And and this is why I love it. And honestly, uh, we're in an era to 2030 going forward of God's wisdom being hidden in mysteries. Yeah. So uh everyone listening to us, you you have to develop a capacity to meditate, to think, to be quiet, to have quiet times. You see what I mean? Yeah. So that you can receive that secret, that principle.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:And then you have to understand sonship. This is what I teach my people, what the Lord told me. The prophecies in your thoughts. God dwells in your thoughts. So there's a lot of people looking for God everywhere. And so there's a lot of confused Christians. So this is a year that we gotta understand that God dwells in your thoughts.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:So you're going to miss God if you don't esteem yourself. If you perceive yourself as cursed, then you are. Then you're never gonna have the enough esteem to trust in your in your uh in the ingenious ideas that will come to you.
SPEAKER_02:Yes.
SPEAKER_04:Because you're already cursed. Why would you have a good idea if you think you're cursed? Right? So I'm saying to you guys, revelation is progressive.
SPEAKER_00:Revelation is progressive indeed.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, and if you notice that theology or that doctrine, let's put it that way, not theology, please forgive me. That doctrine is endemic in Africa. Yes, it is, and has locked us down, and we don't feel good enough. But the people who brought it to you have moved from there, they have. I love this patriarchal father now in heaven. God bless you, Peter Wagner. He wrote a book about 17 theological shifts he made. What a man! Every time God visited what he believed, yes, he noted it, he shared it. I love another one, uh Jack uh Deer. I referenced him in my book, Issacamandate, I read him. This man, you know, doctor, a professor of theology, never believed that God spoke to anyone. And when God visited him, he documented this in a book, how God visited him. And I forget the title of the book now, but it's just about surprised by God's voice is called. So I think it's gonna be fundamentally important that we come into that sonship dimension, the kingly dimension of sonship. We've been in the priestly dimension, so pray, pray, pray, pray, pray, pray, pray. I'm a woman, I top prayer for 30 years. Oh, and you know what? Prayers conversation with God.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, it is.
SPEAKER_04:What it is is be 24 hours open to God to hear him. You will know when someone bigger than you has spoken to, Abby, you're gonna know. So you can't really, you see, people beat themselves down, put themselves down all the time, all the time. And if you do that, you're not gonna be part of what we're talking about.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Right? Think about it, right?
SPEAKER_02:I mean studying the soil, right?
SPEAKER_04:No, I mean, I came into Nigeria this time, Amax, and food wasn't tasted like food. Everything was just like funny taste, funny taste. And there are sons of God here. We need to go back to ensure that the soil is not giving chemicals that are gonna kill the people.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:You see what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_00:True.
SPEAKER_04:So there's a lot of money to be made. We're called to be wealthy, he's giving us the power to get wealth, and that's what you and I have been talking about for two years.
SPEAKER_00:I really appreciate this, this session. But before you say your goodbyes and I let you go, I know you have one thing left to say to the audience.
SPEAKER_04:Eyes have not seen, ears have not heard. Nor has it, you know, been comprehended by man the things that God has for those who love him. Do you love him? If we love him, right, we have to understand. So a lot of people are waiting for wealth transfer with a mindset that somebody's money is coming to them. It's not gonna happen. And a lot of people, I just can't even think that God is doing a major distribution of wealth, right? So that's happening. But beyond that now, that's happened, and a lot of people in church don't even know that. There's been distribution and redistribution of wealth is just going round, it's just going round, it's just going round. Right. And um now it's not a redistribution of wealth, right? Because some of us are beyond that now. No one's taking handouts for anyone.
SPEAKER_01:Nobody.
SPEAKER_04:You know, everything is in a thought. God told me that, you know, breakthrough is in a thought. He says everything began with a thought. The Lord told me even Ivy League universities were built by a thought. The woman with the issue of blood, the Bible says she said, if only I could touch. She didn't touch before it happened. She said, if only I could touch the hem of his garment. So the minute she thought it, it already ceased. Yeah. And that was a physical manifestation. So, you know, so you are not just a creative, such a brilliant man. You're an Isaka prophet, you are uh a futuristic person. And that's why um I felt that we could revisit this conversation because it's a two-year-long conversation and the time's come to have it again. The Bible says to everything there's a season of time for every purpose in heaven, and who else? So this is a continuation. So we're really partners in this. And to say to everyone, whatever God's giving you, you have a partner. Yeah, and we're in a time of the Hebron to Jerusalem shift. What's that? We're in a year where you can't get anywhere on your own. God's giving you partners, people. So don't resist, right? People are gonna come literally, it's not a time. Kings are carried, kings are served. So don't just be like, you know, me, myself, and I. It's not a time for that, right? So God's gonna give you people, right? So Hebron is where David's enemies and friends and everybody have to come to acceptance that nah this person's got a good idea. We gotta go, and we have to shift them back. So they move you from Jerusalem.
SPEAKER_03:That's the place of sitting on your throne. So here we are. We're partners in this, and I know I'm gonna see you in Cape Town.
SPEAKER_04:And uh, I hope to see many of you. We're just going there to put our foot down where God is. We have to follow the footprints of God. So, whatever it is that is in Cape Town, the key that is there to unlock treasures of darkness, hidden riches, and secret places, that angel over the global economy is directing us there because that angel is mandated to serve us, and we are not gonna believe that we're under some curse that is gonna stop us from coming into world. No, everyone that God ever used in the Bible came from dysfunction, glory there. There was all full of dysfunction, right? Until Jesus came and cured everything. And so if you're accepting dysfunction, the dysfunction right narrative, then you're not, you're just gonna take yourself out of this, right? You gotta just say, uh this we're not talking about riches. So we're not talking about a contract to get money in a bank. No, we're talking about the wisdom of God, an idea that gives you even a dollar. So what now makes you different from the bilonia already is the investment you make with your one dollar that suddenly makes you wealthier than that billionaire. It could be in relationship, it could be in whatever. So we hope to see you in Cape Town.
SPEAKER_03:Thank you so much for this conversation for the opportunity to revisit two years ago. Guys, I hope we raised an army through this.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, by his grace, and we will. It's been an amazing hour plus, yeah. You know, when you're doing what you enjoy, time steps aside. And uh, not to just overflog it. We are here. Part of the reason why we are here is because you're there. And you know how I say it on the show. This is the space where we come in, you know, to lean on one and others' experience to forge a positive path. We've been listening to Obi-Pax Harry, the apostle. Amazing, amazing, amazing uh information uh she's come to share with us on the show and putting it out there. I've decided to do this because I just have this nudge on the inside. It's part of what we should do on the show, you know, to create that what I call it shift, the paradigm, that shift in our mind, in our hearts, issues in our lives, and revealed in our services. So, well, you know how we do it on the show. But I got to write down uh before I go, yes, we are available on all the social media platforms TikTok, LinkedIn, uh, Facebook. We have a YouTube channel. Have you subscribed? Go ahead and subscribe, hit that notification button so you'll be the first to receive such juicy information when it drops. All right then, till I come away again. You know how I say it on the show. My name is Amakri. Amakri is away. Bye for now, Apostle?
SPEAKER_04:Bye for now, everyone.